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dedmiston

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Posted: 10/29/21 04:09pm Link  |  Quote  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I love this. We really found your button, didn't we? I wish I had another quarter to drop in your jukebox and watch you sing some more. [emoticon]

And for the fire starter, I try not to use gas very often because it just goes "boom" and blows your firewood out of the ring. I keep a jug of old diesel in the bed of the truck and use that at camp. It's hard to light if it's really cold out, but once it's lit, hooo doggie that's a good fire. No need for crumpled up newspaper.


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BTW - Do you have separate fuel tanks on your hauler for the fuel station and the gen? Have you ran the gen down too far yet and had to pump it from one tank to the other?

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dedmiston wrote:

I love this. We really found your button, didn't we? I wish I had another quarter to drop in your jukebox and watch you sing some more. [emoticon]



You funny guy! LOL
I figger it's being helpful, better than saying "that dumb, this not" without any context.

No, our trailer has only 1 tank that feeds the generator and hooked to the fuel station.


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Grit dog wrote:

No, our trailer has only 1 tank that feeds the generator and hooked to the fuel station.


That's how our old Weekend Warrior was. Our pump never worked very well, so it didn't really matter much. Plus we all rode bikes back then and didn't burn through as much gas as we do now.

Our new(er) hauler is a bigger 45' fifth wheel and we have the two tanks. Luckily the fuel station works great on this one. I just have to remember to loosen the gas cap on the fuel station before I pump any gas out, or else the tank will crush itself like a beer can.

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Hi,

What works is to disconnect the batteries and leave them in place.

For fuel I do the last two fillups with premium gas, and add the appropriate amount of Seafoam. I do the same for the generator.

In my case, I do not disconnect the batteries as all are maintained by the solar system. The starter batteries via a Trik-L-Start and the generator battery by a relay that closes when solar reaches 13.5 volts. I have extremely thin wire on the source wire to the relay to limit amperage.


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Crazbs,

You have most of it right and Pianotuna has a lot right too.

If the disconnected batteries are good, they should only discharge about 1% of their capacity PER MONTH in the cold. If you are worried about that, go find a couple of solar battery keepers that they use in car storage lots. These are cheap and they are about 5 watt and that is plenty to offset the leakage discharge.

I (as an engine professional for multiple decades) am convinced that the "Exercise The Generator" is put up by the people that sell parts for them. I guess it may be good if you can't follow the instructions to drain or at least limit the left over fuel in the carburetor. I have several 40+yo Onans and a Honda near that same age. None get regular exercise and all will start right now if I put fuel in them. (Except for the waiting for a minor repair.) So, find out how to drain the carburetor or at least run it out (draining is better).

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Unless you were driving the vehicle enough for the oils to get hot and the exhaust to burn off liquid, you weren't helping anything and potentially hurting it.

Same with the generator, unless you got it to operating temperature and put it under load for a specified amount of time, you aren't helping it at all.

I'm not sure if Seafoam is a fuel preservative or not, but if you fill the tanks put something in that will preserve the fuel. Stabil fuel or Startron are my preferred options. I've been using Startron in my small engines for about 10 years now with no issues over the winter. If keeps the ethanol from separating and the fuel from going to garbage. I drain the carbs so the fuel doesn't gum up over the winte rtoo.


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spoon059 wrote:


I'm not sure if Seafoam is a fuel preservative or not, but if you fill the tanks put something in that will preserve the fuel. Stabil fuel or Startron are my preferred options.


Hi spoon059,

I've not used Startron, but Seaform works better for storage for me than Stabil.

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pianotuna wrote:

Hi spoon059,

I've not used Startron, but Seaform works better for storage for me than Stabil.

I didn't know that. I've used Seafoam in the past on my GM engine that would get carbon buildup. Looking at it, it requires an ounce per gallon? That's $10 for a 16 gallon tank!

Startron is an ounce per 16 gallons. I buy the 32 oz container for $20 that treats 512 gallons.

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pianotuna wrote:

Hi,

What works is to disconnect the batteries and leave them in place.

For fuel I do the last two fillups with premium gas, and add the appropriate amount of Seafoam. I do the same for the generator.

In my case, I do not disconnect the batteries as all are maintained by the solar system. The starter batteries via a Trik-L-Start and the generator battery by a relay that closes when solar reaches 13.5 volts. I have extremely thin wire on the source wire to the relay to limit amperage.


For clarity, I assume you mean physically disconnect the batteries - not relying on the disconnect switch. As we all know, the disconnect switch can often leave a parasitic draw and drain them.


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