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Cummins12V98

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I wouldn't settle for 25,000 on any passenger vehicle tire, why would I expect to pay for worse mileage on a trailer tire? You might settle for that, but I got 6 years and probably 25,000 miles on my Sailun tires, and they still had a ton of tread left. I would expect a superior American made tire to do at least that good, not worse.

No matter how you spin it, 25,000 miles is not acceptable for a trailer tire.


Funny how nobody talked mileage of RV tires until the GY ENDURANCE haters only could come up with how thin the tread is. Then it was horrible that they could only go 20k from one person then now reports of 25-30k.

It is a BIG deal that you can buy a RV tire now that simply does not fail unless for a Road Hazard. For 95% of RV owners these ENDURANCE tires will age out before they are worn out.

For the very few that put over 25-30k in five years then go to something else in the "D" and "E" load range and take your chances to get more miles.


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It would appear that Endurance tires are certainly suitable for people who don't travel a lot. Maybe that's why their failure rate is so low, people just don't travel with them. [emoticon] They do seem to do well as a middle-of-the-road tire.

I don't hate Goodyear Endurance tires, but when I spend money on a tire I expect it to perform well in all categories. Hate a tire? The only tires I hate are the ones that fail to perform. Buy a tire and, if you travel a lot, change it out every 2-3 years? Not very darned likely.


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fj12ryder wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:



Snip... You seem to be quiet on the Sailun topic these days. [emoticon]
The Endurance won't cut it for me, not enough payload, and I absolutely refuse to pay the extortionate fees for the G614. I want to see the gun when I'm robbed. [emoticon] .


I'll keep my G614s! I have never understood people who will pay upwards of $100,000 for an RV but balk at paying $1500 (what I paid 3 years ago) for the best tires out there.

I see the same thing in my Goldwing friends, $25k for a bike but won't pay $8 for an oil filter. SMH


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It has nothing to do with the cost of the RV.
Why pay $1,500.00 when you can get a comparable tire for 1/2 the price.
Sailun up ended the marketplace by exposing how overpriced G614's are. Competition is a good thing.

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I'll keep my G614s! I have never understood people who will pay upwards of $100,000 for an RV but balk at paying $1500 (what I paid 3 years ago) for the best tires out there.

I see the same thing in my Goldwing friends, $25k for a bike but won't pay $8 for an oil filter. SMH


YEP!!!

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There's a word for people who equate quality with cost: "suckers", and there's one born every minute. [emoticon]

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

Oh please tell us why “ENDURANCE will never be on my list”

What weight is on your two axles?



Big reason is I won't run an E rated tire on my fifth wheel , only G rated . That right there leaves out the Endurance .

I know what you are getting at on my axle weights ,no doubt the weight ratings of the one highest E rated Endurance falls within my weight rating . My fifth wheel came new with G rated ST235/80/16's @ 4080 @ 110 psi. Thats also what is printed on the weight placard on the left front side of the fifth wheel .

I have since went with the Sailuns ST235/85/16 G rated @ 4400 @ 110 psi., biggest reason, not so much for the weight rating as added height . Not much ,but every bit helps with these taller trucks ,and getting a bit more level .

I run the Sailuns @ 100 psi , according to inflation chart from Sailun that gives me the 4080 lbs on weight rating .

As said in a previous post ,those new Hankook H31's look very promising in a G rated RV tire in both the 235/80/16 @ 4080 @ 110 psi ,and the 235/85/16 @ 4400 @ 110 psi. Could be the tire of the future considering what is going on with the Sailuns ,and their issues , which is disappointing . They have been for several years second to none in quality ,and reliability .

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Bipeflier wrote:



I'll keep my G614s! I have never understood people who will pay upwards of $100,000 for an RV but balk at paying $1500 (what I paid 3 years ago) for the best tires out there.

I see the same thing in my Goldwing friends, $25k for a bike but won't pay $8 for an oil filter. SMH


YEP!!!



There is some validity in that, but then take Sailun , at now 1/3 the price of G614, that are now going for near $500 per tire [emoticon] . If I wanted to be robbed by Goodyear ,it should at least be at gunpoint [emoticon]

As far as the Goodyear G614 being the best tire out there ,not hardly ,they were at one time about the only game in town for a G rated RV tire ,and had a HORRIBLE track record , granted they have improved ,but they still have not had the track record of the Sailuns made in China, that has been well documented .

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fj12ryder wrote:

There's a word for people who equate quality with cost: "suckers", and there's one born every minute. [emoticon]



Yup, just price a Goodyear G614.

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I never mentioned in the past anything but the fact the Sailun were made in China and even said they have a good track record.

Now that they are not doing so well I am still not going to bash them.

The fact is every tire maker has a bad run now and then. My last set of Michelins for my truck only went 40k. I replaced with same and now have 46k and plenty of tread.

So those of you that constantly bashed the GY "G" when I suggested it over the years I guess it's your turn. The fact is GY had a bad run on their "G" tires around 07 but they sure did stand behind them and fixed any damages plus replaced the tires.

So the question to be answered is Sailun stepping up and paying for damages with these faulty tires???

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