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Bottom line is that while EV’s might truly present a ‘joyful ownership’ experience, any claims of EV’s making a positive net impact to the environment seem overly simplistic and curiously superficial (as with windmills, lacking authentic environmental ‘net gain’ evaluation), while driven by the currency of ‘green’ tax subsidies and by ‘feel-good’ politics (as if on cue…).

As with ALL other ‘well intentioned’ but ill-conceived rush to wars (say, since Viet Nam…) the current war on boogyman carbon dioxide (setting forth the pre-supposition of yet another Emergency), is yet another stab at shallow public policy making - Think Forrest Gump…

As far a nuclear goes (unlike most other solutions), at least nuclear waste has a half life (think lead), and is recyclable…

https://whatisnuclear.com/recycling.html#:~:text=Nuclear%20waste%20is%20recyclable.%20Once%20reactor%20fuel%20%28uranium,in%20nuclear%20waste%20for%20almost%20100%20years%20%28details%29.

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3 tons,

How many years is the half life?

How many SNR's exist in North America? (none at the moment)

How many SNR's are there in the world (2 in Russia but with only one completed with a cost over run of 100%)

How small is an SNR (about 2 football fields).

Where is the permanent storage facility in the world? (none at the moment)

What was the cost on the last 2 nuclear reactors in North America (2016) 27 billion dollars.

How much solar could be installed for 27 billion--with RETAIL pricing being as low as $0.26 cents per watt?

And you like the nuclear option? Go buy a Prevost!


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Getting back more or less "on topic"

Ford CEO Jim Farley outlined Thursday, with a series of tweets, that the automaker is now expecting to make 600,000 electric vehicles per year globally by the end of 2023. That’s double the previous plan, and enough to potentially be considered the number-two EV maker in the U.S. by then—if other automakers keep to their current plans, that is.

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Trees LOVE CO2 !!!! !!!!

CO2 is not, NOT, pollution. Pollution is pollution. CO2 is clean, natural and needed by nature. The World grows green with more CO2.

Yet, CO2 is everything, carbon is in everything , so control the element that is in everything and you control EVERYTHING!

Wake up everyone. CO2 is the biggest hoax ever!

Electric cars??? FIne. They are dirty. They require power plants, mostly coal burning power plants. That goes against the "green" (fake-green) people. Their batteries cannot be recycled, require great energy and effort and electricity to mine and process - ie, not green. Meanwhile, gas engines are nearly 100% recyclable. Their steel engine blocks are prized the world over as raw materials.

Electric cars can be controlled by big bro. Control is the goal. Hello covd?

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I’d say in the broader scheme of things, we do not live in a bubble - the best way to reduce wirldwide pollution might be to promote the advancement and modernization within highly polluted third world countries…When considering the fatiguable supply of hydrocarbons (and their emissions), nuclear seems a rational alternative, especially at the higher latitudes where limited PV…On a different note, Musk estimates that the entire US power needs could be satisfied with only 100 sq miles of PV (say in Nevada) and only 1 sq mile of batteries, but the political obstacles to achieving this (even IF true??) does not suggest any sort of Climate ‘EMERGENCY’…On nearly every front (from my perspective) we are living in a ‘post-truth’ era, stewarded by too many vested political interest and adulterated information - Just my humble opinion…

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ajriding wrote:

Electric cars??? FIne. They are dirty. They require power plants, mostly coal burning power plants.

Electric cars can be controlled by big bro. Control is the goal. Hello covd?
Yes I agree the few coal plants remaining should be converted or shut down.

ANY vehicle can be controlled same as you think it is just the electrics. Could even make you stop from speeding through that red light as you are exercising your freedom to DWI.


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Posted: 11/21/21 12:28pm Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

"Control is the goal."
That is just too funny!

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Control has nothing to do with it. The ICE is obsolete. Drive a Tesla and you will understand.


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Excellent. Very interesting!

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3 tons wrote:

BTW, Richard Feyman said that “Science is the satisfactory Philosophy of ignorance”..
Assuming you meant Feynman, I could find many but not that one.

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