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Cummins12V98 wrote:

In construction I always referred to feet and inches as it can be confusing. Example if someone says cut to 54" and you are used to 5' 4" that is a bit of a problem.

Bottom line proper communication is where it's at. I am sure Larry will concur!


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

In construction I always referred to feet and inches as it can be confusing. Example if someone says cut to 54" and you are used to 5' 4" that is a bit of a problem.

Bottom line proper communication is where it's at. I am sure Larry will concur!


Lot depends on where in the construction prosses you are, and what tools you have to hand. Many tapes the center of studs is marked better than the feet, and the inches to add to feet is even harder to see.
And doing the grade work, better look close at the plans, often they use feet and tenths.
One job, the state approved plan for driveway & drainage was in ft/tenths, and the plan for layout of slab under garage was in ft/in.

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JRscooby wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:

In construction I always referred to feet and inches as it can be confusing. Example if someone says cut to 54" and you are used to 5' 4" that is a bit of a problem.

Bottom line proper communication is where it's at. I am sure Larry will concur!


Lot depends on where in the construction prosses you are, and what tools you have to hand. Many tapes the center of studs is marked better than the feet, and the inches to add to feet is even harder to see.
And doing the grade work, better look close at the plans, often they use feet and tenths.
One job, the state approved plan for driveway & drainage was in ft/tenths, and the plan for layout of slab under garage was in ft/in.


Every bit of site work I did was in tenths of a foot. Wall framing on 16" centers yes I would use the marks but mark 3/4" off along with an "X" to show what side the stud would go Actually I would use an "/" at that takes less time!

Ordering glass and windows for example ALWAYS use feet and inches!!!


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Cummins12V98 wrote:

In construction I always referred to feet and inches as it can be confusing. Example if someone says cut to 54" and you are used to 5' 4" that is a bit of a problem.

Bottom line proper communication is where it's at. I am sure Larry will concur!


Actually, it is supposed to written 5'-4".

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Cummins12V98 wrote:

In construction I always referred to feet and inches as it can be confusing. Example if someone says cut to 54" and you are used to 5' 4" that is a bit of a problem.

Bottom line proper communication is where it's at. I am sure Larry will concur!


Actually, it is supposed to written 5'-4".

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I don't know if it's written in stone anywhere but that is the method of communication used within the Commercial Sub Contractors I worked with.

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I'd say do practice backing a bit before you get in a situation where you have to back up and don't be afraid to back up .... it's not really that difficult.


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Duke-44 wrote:

I'm heading south w/my side by side on trailer behind 30' 5th wheel, I have never done this before. I have to say I am a little nervous. I know there is only straight ahead. Any words of experience from the Knowing?

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If you have a factory receiver installed, it's likely to be 300 / 3000 lb rated; 300 hitch / 2990 trailer GVW. Most states require trailer brakes on a trailer rated at 3000 GVW and above. Staying under that means no trailer brakes...unless you add them or have a trailer > 3k GVW. At that point, you'd need to add some wiring, a 7-way plug and, maybe, a 2nd brake controller. I've never seen a doubles setup, so I don't know for sure. The reason I say this is that there are LEOs that will ding you for towing an =empty= trailer that's > 3k GVW and you don't have a brake controller installed. I know 2 people this has happened to when towing a car trailer, empty, with a small truck; just moving the trailer from one place to another. Same d-bag cop, both times.

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The quickest and easiest setup for a small trailer like that would be to install a Surge Brake setup.


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Take the rig for a test drive in an empty lot to see how sharp you can turn without one of the trailers hitting the truck or each other
Truck / 30' / 12', I suspect you may have a limit of turning radius ( unrelated to fuel range or bladder capacity)

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I agree, at some legal point, surge brakes would be easiest option. My 2nd trailer has 2K GWR so no brakes on mine. I have had 2nd trailer about 1,200 on the axle, but never noticed any push, using great truck & FW brakes. Steeper downhills, 7% with sharp curves, no problem, using engine braking, other brakes as needed.

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