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Vpolio90

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Posted: 02/04/22 06:43am Link  |  Print  |  Notify Moderator

I want to stick with a srw. As of right now im leaning towards a grand design reflection or a KZ durango either used or new.

Since my trucks is going to be a short bed what 5 wheel hitch do yall recommend, also slider or non slider?

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Well I haven't looked at the recent Ram build sheets, but in the past the SRW short bed topped out GVWR of 11,700# where the Long Bed went to 12,300# so a loss of about 400# to 500# in payload.

You should have researched 5th wheels before you started looking at trucks. Many only look at tow capacity(Ability to pull), and not payload or axle and tire ratings (Ability to Carry).

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Long or short bed 3500 srw have the same 7000 rawr regardless of GVWR or gvwr based payload sticker numbers.

Looking at Ram Body Builder guide base weight specs shows the same cab/drive train/6.7 Cummins/Aisin/etc std bed...rear axle is around 140 lbs lighter than the long bed version = 5th wheel hitch weight that sits on the trucks rear axle, load carrying advantage going to the std 6' 4" bed.


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Vpolio90 wrote:

Ken, the maximum payload capacity will be from about 3800lbs to 4000lbs. It will most likely be at 3900lbs from the videos I've seen with people with the same trim level. The 5wh GVWRs I've been looking at have been no more than 11500lbs therefore, having a max pin weight of 2300lbs (using the 20% rule). So I would have around 1600lbs not including passengers, extra cargo, 5wh hitch etc.

Yes, I agree we only plan to have 3 to 6 people when using our camper but the capacity of 8 would only be a just in case situation.

Victor


If that's the case, then I'd look at rigs that comfortably sleep 6 but have open floor space where a blow up mattress(es) could be laid out in a pinch.

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Vpolio90 wrote:

I want to stick with a srw. As of right now im leaning towards a grand design reflection or a KZ durango either used or new.

Since my trucks is going to be a short bed what 5 wheel hitch do yall recommend, also slider or non slider?


If you already have the RAM, realize that it has the shortest bed of the Big 3, so you =may= need a slider. My '02 D'max will NOT hit my cab turning R or L at full lock. Even my old, square-front Komfort, wouldn't hit. Having 4x4 probably does affect my turning radius. That being said, ALL will hit in reverse; a slider just gives you more time before you DO hit. Ask me how I know. :-/

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That's a good idea Lyle, that might me the best solution for the "just in case situation".

As for the slider I was leaning towards a slider from the get-go, I just wanted to hear yalls recommendations.

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JIMNLIN wrote:

Long or short bed 3500 srw have the same 7000 rawr regardless of GVWR or gvwr based payload sticker numbers.

Looking at Ram Body Builder guide base weight specs shows the same cab/drive train/6.7 Cummins/Aisin/etc std bed...rear axle is around 140 lbs lighter than the long bed version = 5th wheel hitch weight that sits on the trucks rear axle, load carrying advantage going to the std 6' 4" bed.


Jimnlin, you state go by rear axle weight rating , that is fine if you choose to do that, but to recommend it to others, can place them in legal limbo! It is stated many times in both owners manual and towing documents that is is unsafe to exceed any one of the axle and or GVWR. While one may never get a ticket for exceeding their GVWR, if in a crash, if over GVWR then doesn’t matter if either driver was cited, that can be listed as a contributing cause of the crash.
To buy a NEW truck at todays prices that may be needing to depend axle ratings because it is over GVWR is insane.

The OP’s truck is on order, so he can likely refuse without issue.

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For the hitch I recommend the B&W Companion slider.


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Jimnlin, you state go by rear axle weight rating , that is fine if you choose to do that, but to recommend it to others, can place them in legal limbo!

Baloney ...... There is no legal limbo with (DOT or other legal theories) for exceeding the truck mfg gvwr. Thats just plain rv website scare myth thats been pushed by a few rv owners opinions..... yourself included.

For those that swear by the trucks gvwr or its gvwr based payload sticker.... loading 3500 Rams rear axle to full 7000 lbs will not exceed a 3500 srw Rams 12400 gvwr.

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